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Matthew 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

This is the gist of a recent exchange of comments from 4-6 Dec 2010 in Facebook between a fellow contact and me.
Despite the seemingly frivolous topic title, the content is serious and deserves a wider audience.

 

I decide to compile these exchanges in verbatim here and reflect on it further so that more readers can be made aware of and judge for themselves the thinking of the proponents of so called Prosperity Gospel.

As a courtesy to this fellow FB contact, his name shall be substituted as PG in this article/posing.

PG: No wonder you have limited wisdom.. LOL... (ouch.. kick you directly in your heart... ) Haha..later u black list me.. no good no good.

God ask King Solomon what he want. And King Solomon ask for Wisdom rather than money.
And God so happy ...with his decision that God bless him with Wisdom and prosperity.

Do you know how much is the prosperity God gave him in today's value?

Back in 20's a group of christian calculate his fortune..
And translate to today's value... (in 20's)... it is US$200Billion!!!!!!!
Bill Gates also don't have 200B!!!

If any pastor that tells you that God don't want us to be rich, I will leave the pastors or the church because God has blessed so many christian globally!!!! and over the centuries!!!

Me: God should not be treated like a vending machine whom you can simply put in faith and out pops the blessings.

PG: Loo... God wants us to preach grace and prosperity, thats why my church in Singapore is preaching and draw 20,000 followers every Sunday as we are transformed in terms of how we understand and accept blessing. The message has been preached via TV for US christian TV and other countries christian network and has made us properly understand on how to accept the grace and blessing from GOD.

Jesus died for us on the cross not just bless us spiritually, but soul, prosperity, health and sounded mind.

http://www.newcreation.org.sg/ Pleases visit and read the grace message and you will understand what I meant in those posting above.

Me: Jesus died on the cross for our sins and not for our wealth.

It's dangerous when church leaders emphasize prosperity over repentance of sins in their teachings.
Materialism masquerading as theology can lead their congregations astray.

Matthew 6:19-21 "Stop storing up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal.
But keep on storing up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust do not destroy and where thieves do not break in and steal.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

PG: Old testiment = law. New testiment = Grace.
When I learn to accept Grace of God, Prosperity and health grows at exponential level.

Our God is a loving God. He won't left us poor in this world. Only Satan will take away our wealth.

We are created in the image of God.

Even our own children we will give the best to them, no matter how bad they have turn to, we still love them and bless them with whatever we have (which include wealth).

Our Father in heaven too loves us, and scarifies Jesus his son to take away our sin. Our Father too will give us the best and bless us with whatever riches he has.

When Jesus died, we are given Holy Spirit.
9 gifts of Holy spirit:

1. The Word of Knowledge
2. The Word of Wisdom
3. The Gift of Prophecy
4. The Gift of Faith
5. The Gifts of Healings
6. The Working of Miracles
7. The Discerning of Spirits
8. Different Kinds of Tongues
9. The Interpretation of Tongues

Mark 4:20
"Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—thirty, sixty or even a hundred times what was sown."

Matthew 6:19-21 is telling us that whatever possession we have not last forever but having faith in heaven we will last forever with God.
Priority is on GOD and not on Material. And this doesn't mean that we must be forever poor and broke!

PG: Back in July I ask God where should I go? Should I continue my business, go to Antivirus Distribution Business or Financial Sector.
God opens few roads to me.
1. Referred to SPH as Gaming Event Management role by my business vendor
2. Chance to meetup A CEO of Antivirus for Asia Pacific role
3. Met 2 very experience with over 10 years of experience in Forex Trading at almost concurrently.

The prominent results is to choose Forex Trading.
During the trading between August 2010 to December 2010, I finally able to see how God bless me via Forex and give me the return on Mark 4:20.

What I have master in Forex?
1. Precise Entry point and exit point.
2. Able to notice market changing direction.
3. Able to 97% accuracy calculate the timing of my entry point will start.
4. Able to repeat the same process with 30 currency pairs. (no longer 6 pairs but 30pairs).
5. Opportunity was offered to me to be broker (Jan - Feb 2011).
6. opportunity was offered to me to be Contractual Trader for European Banks in mid 2011 to end of 2011.
7. Holy spirit give me physical miracles evident to me since august when the market is retrace or reversal so that I can get out of the market before suffer heavy losses!!

I have been Praising God and Jesus 30 fold, 60 fold and 100 fold for the last few months. Never in my life has I ever did that.

I am able to continue my tithing every month!! and my tithing is increase every single month!!

If all this are Satan things, why would I Praise GOD and Jesus?

Wake up. DO NOT LET SATAN Blind our rights to the wealth given by our ABBA in heaven and DO NOT LET SATAN prevent and took away our wealth.!! The wealth in Heaven and on Earth.

PG: The best part is that I did a research and discover Top traders able to take 1000pips to 2000pips a month only!! Where I did take 3000pips to 8000pips in a month!!! Now on average is over 2000pips every months is very simple.

God has even open up Internet Marketing opportunity to market my skill. This is in progress and when it is finalized, I will see 100fold of return on what I sow!

Me: God's blessing is His sole prerogative. What this means is that He chose who, what, when and how to bless in accordance to His perfect will.
It's a fallacy to treat God's blessing like an ATM and to expect the dispensing of cash on demand.

Luke 14:27 - "And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple." clearly show us that the Christian walk is not a bed of roses.

Making Christendom appears like a fairyland where believers have a right to and be granted automatically, the blessings of health and wealth makes a mockery of those godly men and women, past and present who have been persecuted and/or struggled to preach the gospel of the cross.

PG: Loo. then give me all your money and assets.. LOL
Luke 14:27 is for his twelve disciple. I not Jesus disciple. We all are not. But we are children of God.

You will be amaze that God does dispensing cash when required.

If you don't believe the rights of blessing of health, prosperity and soul and sounded mind, then Jesus died on the cross in vain. Which the Satan loves so much that we don't get what we suppose to get.

If God is a person that choose who to bless and who not to bless, then he is a BIAS God, no different than Human which has bias and favor on certain children.
If God is a person that choose who is worthy to be blessed, then God is no different that those "Guang Kong, Guang Yin, Etc" that shows human must earn the rights to be even notice by the so called "GOD".

If God scarifies Jesus so that he can just redeem our sin only, then he is a God that has NO POWER over satan over EVERYTHING but SPIRITUAL ONLY? Then he is no different than all those Gods' that have to return to heaven on 7th Month and let the "Ghost devil King" to rule the earth and strike human with fear.

If Christian GOD is so powerless, then this GOD is a GOD that I won't want.

The fact is, GOD is very POWERFUL!! GOD Created the world.
GOD loves human so much that he created ADAM and EVE to rule the Earth. GOD loves human so much that he created all the natural resources like Gold, Silver, etc so that we can enjoy the richness of his creation.

God's heart hurt so much when Adam and Eve fell, he created 10 Commandment so that human will follow his rules.

God's loves us so much that he scarifies his son Jesus so that the harsh rules that he created no longer able to be applicable on human as Jesus took away the sins.

God's loves us so much that he knows every single tiny cell of us from inside out and bless us spiritually, mentally, health, prosperity true heartly.

Just use a normal human senario.

You as a father wanted to bless your child with a house. You as a father loves your child so much and wanted to give the house as a gift.
Then one day your enemy that wanted your house keep telling your son that he has done many wrongful things (might be simple case like disrespect, to worst case of maybe criminal activities) that his is not worthy to take the house, that you never want him to have the house as he has not earned anything that you can approve of.

And ends up keep rejecting the house or avoiding to even think of the house.

How would you feel? You as father will feel hurt (I would). You as a father would you let the enemy continue to deny your child the house (where you are so powerless to even shut your enemy's mouth?) or You as a father would do everything to keep enemy out of your child and protect your child and shows your child that you love him/her so much that you are blessing him/her with a house?

God is such God!! God is ALMIGHTY not just in name and NOT just in Spirit. GOD is Almighty that he choose Church leaders to preach his loving and blessing side to all of us Christian so that SATAN has no power over what is ours!!

Satan has power to take away mental, health, prosperity, sounded mind and EVEN SOUL because we LET SATAN do it to us.

There are many bible scriptures support what I wrote in new testimont but I did not keep track of it.

Me: PG, if you still believe in a god that "dispenses cash when required", then I have nothing more to say except that you may want to explain why are there countless faithfuls who are still unemployed, suffering, and worrying if there will be food on the table for their families.

Please don't tell me none of these is happening in your church ;).

PG: Loo. This is because countless Christian were not teach on how to receive God's blessing. God has a secret to release its blessing on wealth that many took it as compulsory monthly action without even have the revelation of the action.

Unemployed, Suffering, and not able to provide food on the table of Christian. Let me ask you. Do they listen to God's instruction or die die want to stick to their own comfort zone (which has become danger zone?)

I suffer unemployment, etc before, not because God didn't want to bless me with better career path. It was me that ignorant and didn't follow what was suppose to be. God sent all signal to me and I ignore it and ends up in those situation that you have mention to countless Christian.

When I open my ears and my eyes, I saw God has arranged all those good options for me and I finally took the ride on it.

There is a famous story of a faithful Christian ask God for help when his house is flooded. He pray the flood will go away.

He pray to God so that he can be help.

1st boat arrive and ask the Christian to follow his boat.
The Christian answer "No thank you. God will help me."

The water rise to the 1st floor and he has to climb to 2nd floor of his house. Again he pray for God's help and that the flood will go away.

2nd boat arrive and ask the Christian to follow his boat.
The Christian answer "No thank you. God will help me."

The water rise to the roof top.
3rd boat arrive and ask the Christian to follow his boat.
The Christian answer again "No thank you. God will help me.".

Finally the Christian died and went to meet God.
The Christian was so anger that he ask God why not answer his prayer.

God reply that he sent 3 boat to rescue him but yet he rejected his help.

What is the moral of the story that applies to countless Christian?
The Christian pray for Flood to reside. Yet that is not God's intention but God sent 3 boat to rescue him and the Christian deny the help.

Just like us Christian we pray that we can keep the job, we can keep the business, we continue on certain expectation of what and how God will help us.

When God send his help like a lower pay, or a different industry, or a different business, we continue to expect God will give us same pay, same jobscope, same industry, same businesses, etc... and reject all those other offers that come along the way.

How many times in bible story where people are being sent away to what seems to be worst scenario than current situation and ends up those people become very bless and in important position in life?

How many years the Isralie have to wonder in the bushes when the people ignore God's instruction to enter the Jericho city? 40 years of suffering!!!

So who's fault is that ? GOD? Heck No!!
Its is our fault!!

God love us so much that everyday he sent help to us. Yet we everyday rejected the help and only accept help that we see fit or help that aligned with our wishing.

My reflection:

While God's blessing is unquestionable, it alarms and saddens me to know of church goers who seem to place the importance of the gifts over that of the Giver!
We cannot order God around and demand for His blessings.
God's blessing is a privilege, not a rights and is not something to be boastful of.

Promoting a god who can't wait to bless every faithful with riches is both deceitful and deadly.
It’s deceitful because it contradicts Luke 14:33 “In the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.".
And it’s deadly because the warning in 1 Timothy 6:8-9 “So as long as we have food and clothes, we will be satisfied with these. But people who want to get rich keep toppling into temptation and are trapped by many stupid and harmful desires that plunge them into destruction and ruin." is loud and clear.

We are already blessed exceedingly when compared to what these people are going through with their lives.

 

So, start counting our blessings and stop asking for more as if God hasn't given enough to us!

My further research into the so-called prosperity gospel reinforce my understanding on the dangers of this twisted theology. 

Take for example:
Mark 4:20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

In the context of Mark 4:14-20 which is known as the Parable of the Sower, verse 20 clearly refers to those who have received the gift of salvation into their hearts, understood the meaning and shared the Gospel truth and brought many more disciples into the Kingdom of God.

The same Parable can also be found in Matthew 13:18:23 and in Luke 8:11-14 and none of them allude to the financial blessings from God.

In Matthew 13:10-13 the disciples asked Jesus why he taught in parables?
Referring to the “mysteries of heaven” in 13:11 - And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given., Jesus says in 13:12 - For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath, clearly shows that those who are given knowledge from God will be given even “more abundance” of knowledge!
Again this is referring to knowledge and not money.

Taken as a whole, it is deceiving to equate Mark 4:20 to the multiplication of wealth.

Galatians 1:6-10 is a warning from Paul on the danger of following a different gospel:
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

I would encourage you to click on the following links for more details on:

What does the Bible say about the prosperity gospel? http://www.gotquestions.org/prosperity-gospel.html.

The Bankruptcy of the Prosperity Gospel: An Exercise in Biblical and Theological Ethics http://bible.org/article/bankruptcy-prosperity-gospel-exercise-biblical-and-theological-ethics.

You can also visit FB Communities such as:

Word of Faith (Prosperity Gospel) Is a false Gospel at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Word-of-Faith-Prosperity-Gospel-Is-a-false-Gospel/119926661373909.   

My encounter:

It happened during a Morris Cerullo meeting at one of the WTC Exhibition Halls some years ago and before they were re-developed to become Vivocity.

After listening to the distorted teaching of some Bible verses, one of the speakers, American televangelist and "Word of Faith" Bible teacher, John Avanzini asked the audience to empty their wallets/purses, watches, jewellery and to write out cheques into the offering bags for a hundredth folds return!

Some were persuaded by "the more you give, the more you get financially" mentality, but thankfully, I wasn't taken in by the deception.
I hope that you won't, should you ever encounter such false teachings. 

It's my prayer that the Holy Spirit will help us to discern the rights from the wrongs.
T
o God be the Glory.

Shouldn't we be serving our God instead of expecting God to serve us?

How irreverent and disrespectful can a preacher be to God for uttering "... if He is a divine servant, He still serves while you are sleeping. He works the night shift, I said God works the night shift..."?

You can see and hear this sermon at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNS-7t6UjoM#t=160 .

More twisted doctrines at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9PYdXoiWUk .

Isaiah 33:6 He will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge; the fear of the LORD is the key to this treasure.

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